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Ok. So let me clarify one thing: I do NOT have an issue with the MoP reputations as I'm prone to maxing out one toon and then the next and so on and so forth. However, that is only my personal style. People raid on mains AND alts and so forth and rep is crucial to this. And I can see, even if I don't really agree with, the problem.

That being said, Ghostcrawler has stated that they don't want the subsequent grinds to take as long which leads me to believe there is a solution in the works or at least being discussed. As such, I feel this is an opportune time to find an easy to implement "middle ground" as tabard grinding rep stinks. It's too fast, too easy and farmable (more so than dailies) and that's just weak, imo. However, starting out from NEUTRAL and going all the way over and over and over is reasonably tedious as well.

So here's an idea: PARTIAL account bound Mists of Pandaria reputations.

Here's how it would work:

Rep would be account bound BUT (of course there's always a BUT!), it's partial. So the way I envision this working is subsequent characters that start a faction rep automatically start at the beginning of a rep tier two tiers lower than your max reputation character.

For instance:

Let's say Huggywuggles has his Tillers rep all the way up to Exalted. This would mean any other character coming behind him would then automatically start at 0/12000 Honored. There would have to be some restrictions, like the individual reps like you have with the Tillers, but your TILLER rep would work like that.

This would allow a quicker grind for subsequent characters, give THEM some reputation benefits but still encourage them to grind out reputations for the BEST rewards.

So, in short, P.A.B.R. would be, in my humble opinion, the way to go.

My shammy is just a few bars shy of 77 and getting closer and closer to Cataclysm. He's a leatherworker and skinner. Firstly, I will NEVER EVER EVER level LW again. Holy smokes, it's a PiA! But, one of my big goals is making sure I'm doing everything I can to provide some nice things for my guildies in the event I can no longer play.

So bearing all of that in mind, once I do finally max my LW and skinning out and get my shammy to honored with my guild, we will finally have [Working as a Team] achievement. What's the big deal, you ask? Simply this: It will be something I have done singlehandedly. All the profs, all that time, all that money spent. I will have provided my guild, singlehandedly with something that will be useful to them in the event I'm no longer able to play for some reason or another.

It's been a long LONG road; lots of money spent (not that it's good for anything else, really), lots of backtracking old zones I've long since quested out of, lots of time spent farming...once that achievement pops up across that screen, I can truly say that it will be one achievement I'm truly proud of!

What about you? What achievements are you particularly proud of whether it's been a long tough road for personal gain or something you've really busted your hump for so that you can provide something for someone that really needed it?

01/11/2012 09:51 AMPosted by Zuule

Yes it does. If you were to Real ID me, you would be able to see which characters I'm on, and their realms. That's part and parcel of using Real ID.

Oh, well I have all of that disabled on my RealID settings so I guess I never really bothered looking. :)

I don't blame you. I'm extremely security concious myself though I've yet to move into a buried bus in the backwoods of some god forsaken corner of the country. But I am VERY selective in who I have on my Real ID and who I don't.
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01/11/2012 09:41 AMPosted by Zuule

You obviously have no reading comprehension skills. Joe's friends arent always my friends, but Joe's friends can see the real name of all of Joe's friends from his real ID.

While that is true... it does indeed list the names. It doesn't link names to the characters, does it?

Yes it does. If you were to Real ID me, you would be able to see which characters I'm on, and their realms. That's part and parcel of using Real ID.
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01/11/2012 09:32 AMPosted by Powderhorn

I apologize here folks becase I've had enough. I'm gonna be a bit nasty here and I sincerely apologize and if it costs me my 'green' so be it: Take your idiotic humanistic, faux intellectualized, liberal arts educated trash and think about what you've said. Seriously.

Tssk tsssk, temper temper.

I must say, threads like this are quite interesting because they always pinch a nerve somewhere.

Yes, harassment is unacceptable, it should not be tolerated and it should be punished harshly, but it is unfair to claim that in this particular case it is Blizzard's fault that the OP is being harassed.

No one blames Blizzard. Not me, not anyone else that I've seen. And yes, temper temper to me. But I've seen this kind of garbage first hand and I've seen the effect it can have on innocent people both in game and IRL.

This is actually pretty simple. At some point, there is some personal responsibility for protecting your information on a video game. The only way this wouldn't be her fault AT ALL is if a REAL LIFE friend gave her information out. Then we can blame her for being friends with somebody who has NO common sense.

And back to your point, whatever she did or didn't do to cause the harassment doesn't mean that she should have to tolerate it. It's against the rules and the offender(s) should be punished.

Sorry for the blow up and I'll accept YOUR apology if you accept mine. However that being said, here's the thing: ''The only way it wouldn't be her fault AT ALL...Then we can blame her..". No. How about we blame the 'friend' for complicity in harrassment and what ever else there may be? We never know who someone truly is in their heart of hearts until they show their true colors/alliances. If we NEVER take someone at their word till they prove otherwise, we'd all be lonely, bitter people indeed.
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Tell that to countless children that are abused, kidnapped and killed. I know of one who was preyed upon in game PERSONALLY. I mean surely it wasn't ENTIRELY Susan Smith's fault, right? I'm sure her children did SOMETHING to deserve being drowned in a lake while trapped in the backseat of a car crying for mommy to save them. After all NO victim is entirely 100% innocent. Correct?

I apologize here folks becase I've had enough. I'm gonna be a bit nasty here and I sincerely apologize and if it costs me my 'green' so be it: Take your idiotic humanistic, faux intellectualized, liberal arts educated trash and think about what you've said. Seriously.

Can we keep the topic relevant? You're using the most extreme comparisons here to try to win some debate that you've created.

I stated that the OP *COULD* be innocent ( Exceptions to every rule ) but I also said that was talking about INTERNET HARASSMENT and general statistics regarding such - NOT somebody being kidnapped or killed. Try to stay in the shallow end... the deep end seems dangerous for you.

And yet you fail to realize that things such as murder and kidnappings often STEM from internet harrassment so it is ENTIRELY relevant to the issue at hand but I guess that doesn't matter since people deserve malicious treatment since they're rarely ever 100% innocent, correct?
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Maybe you missed the part where I said that I stand behind the no-harassment policy? I FULLY agree with you that regardless of what caused it, harassment should not be tolerated. I was merely pointing out that statistically the OP probably isn't 100% innocent. Very very rarely is it a case of a truly innocent victim. So why bring it up? This is a discussion forum and I stated my opinion. I still agree with you that regardless of what caused it, nobody should have to tolerate harassment.

/sigh

So statistically speaking should a female friend/relative of yours get assaulted, chances are they aren't 100% innocent? I mean after all, very very rarely is it a case of a truly innocent victim, right? That would make for a GREAT police report, wouldn't it? "Victim was sexually assaulted, BUT chances are that statistically speaking, she wasn't 100% innocent so, you know, the perpatrator should therefore walk free". Is that acceptable to you? I didn't think so because it's NOT acceptable to me nor is it acceptable to any other reasonable human being. Stop making excuses and blaming the victim.
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01/11/2012 08:17 AMPosted by Kate

Thank you everyone who has posted things.. this has actually really helped me a lot.

We got your back, Kate!
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01/11/2012 08:01 AMPosted by Zuule

I would have to say those that believe the OP "must have done something" are missing the point. She may have done something jerky in game or not, but apparently it's not a bannable offense, because here she is. Using real life info to repeatedly harass someone in game should be a bannable offense. It might not have been hard to get, but they still went looking for that info, and posted it in Trade, which is in violation of the ToS and EULA.

Oh, I agree. I wholeheartedly back the no-harassment rules. I was merely pointing out that the chances are high that it isn't a case of somebody being totally innocent. Though, there are exceptions. Have to play statistics though....

You fail to realize something here, Zuule. IT. DOES. NOT. MATTER. WHAT. OP. MAY. OR. MAY. NOT. HAVE. DONE. Excuses, like this, are as bad a @##@ victims being told 'they invited it because of the way they dress'. It's a bs argument that only propagates an apathetic attitude to horrific crimes with effects that can span generations. And no, I'm not overstating that.
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i transferred to get away from it and it has followed me to my new realm.

Seriously, what did you do to warrant such griefers?

It doesn't matter if someone 'did something to warrant such griefers'. Harrassment is Harrassment. Period. End of list. Unfortunately, this is a side effect of social networking. Kate, my best advice to you is to adjust your FB settings to where only authorized people can see pictures, info, etc. And I would absolutely disconnect your facebook from anything WoW related if this has led people to you.

Keep reporting (as frustrating as it is) and use as much detail as possible. If the worst happens and RL threats are made, rest assured Blizzard DOES take this very seriously. Details matter in a ticket though. You need to make absolutely crystal clear that it IS harrassment and not general name calling/trolling. I do hope this gets taken care of as I've seen it happen, and I've seen the effects it can have on someone. It's not funny, it's not cool and it certainly isn't acceptable.

Also, if you do not feel a response to a ticket is acceptable, you can re-file it by going up to the top of the screen here, where it says support and re-file the ticket as well.
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And furthermore, what would be a better design for this type of structure?

Infinite content.

It's easy to design a better system than dailies, pump out infinite amounts of content, it's just not feasible to pull off. Some people want to spend more time in the game than others, maybe even every day, and we want to make sure they have something to do. While we'd love for that to be fresh and unique content every time, it's simply not feasible. Thus, dailies. Give people something to do each time they log in (if they choose to do so every day).

Not to toot the Mists of Pandaria horn too hard, but I think our general zone design, daily, and scenario approach is pretty solid. Part of what makes dailies a bit tedious, aside from being tedious, is the rewards are desired but may not always quite fit the time investment. I see quite a bit of that being solved and making sure if you're logging in to do some dailies or scenarios, you feel like you made a good chunk of progress toward advancing your character.

Now see here Bash, stop getting me all pumped up for MoP. Although I don't mind the current design, the changes that are incoming and that you allude to only make me chomp at the bit all that more....think of the bit for Pete's sake, man!
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I think we all just need to step back and calm down, NOW. OP, to help you further, you'd be best served addressing this on the BR forums where the CMs who oversee those particular forums can help you address your concerns. I understand you want to be heard, but the CMs on the BR forums are best able to address your issues.

As far as the BR forums being 'mean', take a page from my book and other's books as well. Be a leader in reforming the BR forums. It takes effort and time, but in the end, wouldn't you rather have a more communicative and productive forums rather than a trollfest?

Hopefully, this will point you in the direction you need to go and help you get the issue you're having addressed.

Another tip I would give you is this: think before you type. Posting in rage, or anger is NOT a good way to get your point across nor do people respond to demands very easily. Good luck in your quest and hopefully you'll have some answers sooner rather than later. /Gnomefist
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http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3759726426 here we go guys. It is over in the tech forums already. Hopefully it won't be too much of an issue for too much longer /crosses shoelaces
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I've gotten into the habit of giving out Winterspring Cubs myself to random people and new guildies and lowbies. Probably the best gift I got was in the first year of my guild. One of the young'uns asked me what my favorite color was and I told them it was blue. On my birthday, I found, in my mail, an azuremoon stone which, at the time, cost a small fortune.

It sat in my hunter's backpack right next to my hearthstone until I stopped huntering. It saw my pally all the way through from TBC to Cataclysm and now, it has a place of honor in Huggywuggles' backpack, as usual right next to the ol' hearthstone where I can always look at it and think back to a wonderful, thoughtful gift from a wonderful, thoughtful person.
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