Method took it

Congrats to Method! It's been interesting watching everyone compete for the World First, and It's awesome to see Method pull through. We will be watching for the World Second and World Third, so good luck to everyone else going for the kill!

12/13/2017 09:19 AMPosted by Braellynn

Boss got nerfed cause they suck, nothing new to see here.

The boss hasn't been touched besides some minor bug fixes early yesterday, actually, but good try!

Let's keep this thread positive and constructive. If you don't have anything to add to a constructive conversation here, best keep it to yourself.

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Efficiency has nothing todo with it, its like saying the todays Warriors are a better basketball team than the 90's Bulls, its still a video game where you move and press 1,2,3,4, this isnt nuclear enginnering, not taking away the current players skills, but one cannot say people werent skilled ages ago if they still spent nearly 15+ hours a day playing a game

I can guarantee you with all the money in the known universe that people are better raiders today than from Vanilla.

100%

Professional raiding as well as raid design have evolved a ton since those days, they are hardly comparable at this point imo.

12/13/2017 10:12 AMPosted by Dontfightme

12/13/2017 09:55 AMPosted by Braellynn

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Ragnaros took 120 days, this is easy in comparison

People also didn’t play 24/h a day 7 days. Week on rotating shifts trying everything in their power to get it.

Or have PTR research, or datamining, or have multiple characters for any scenario of mechanical differences. The list goes on. Higher end raiders while a very fraction of a percent are far more skilled in how they approach fights than they were during Vanilla and even Burning Crusade encounters.

If you dropped a fight like Argus during something like Vanilla with no previous history of encounters or the tools that higher end raiders have now, I think you'd see him live for quite a long time.

12/13/2017 10:35 AMPosted by Weili

12/13/2017 08:57 AMPosted by Valibas

Okay, we care why?

More people should care. The world first races are fun to follow for a number of reasons. If you're (general you, I mean) one of those people who is salty about raiding in general, then by all means stay away; but for someone who knows even the slightest bit about how raiding works, following along with the MMO-Champion mythic progression thread for each raid is by turns fascinating and hilarious.
Fascinating because I will never see mythic progression, just like I won't ever play professional football, but I can read the commentary of the various hardcore raiders that contribute to that thread just like I can watch pro ball. Hilarious because sometimes there's more bickering and drama in these extreme high-end raiding guilds than you see in any RP guild.

It's just that, entertainment. However, it's not some peoples cup of tea and that's fine. I personally get super excited about it and love to talk about the race around the office. We even watch some of players that stream it, the rare few that is. It's also a sense of pride, being a player that used to participate in this, seeing it continue through all of the new raid tiers we add.

12/13/2017 10:36 AMPosted by Orgomrar

Even though I'm not a hardcore raider in any sense, I always notice that people on the forums get triggered badly whenever impressive PVE or PVP accomplishments are mentioned in anyway.

Some people get mad seeing things they haven't accomplished like this. We'd have a few more raiders if they weren't so busy posting angrily on the forums about other player's accomplishments. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

12/13/2017 01:20 PMPosted by Harambank

12/13/2017 11:02 AMPosted by Ythisens

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It's just that, entertainment. However, it's not some peoples cup of tea and that's fine. I personally get super excited about it and love to talk about the race around the office. We even watch some of players that stream it, the rare few that is. It's also a sense of pride, being a player that used to participate in this, seeing it continue through all of the new raid tiers we add.

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Some people get mad seeing things they haven't accomplished like this. We'd have a few more raiders if they weren't so busy posting angrily on the forums about other player's accomplishments. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm glad you got to spectate WF runs while the rest of the community does not. Why have this be such a big deal and act like the community should care if we can't even spectate it?

Just saying.. there'd be more interest from people if we could see progress. But we can't. So we have no reason to care.

I think he was noting we watched some folks on Twitch who were streaming their runs. You're welcome to watch those as well.

12/13/2017 01:20 PMPosted by Harambank

I'm glad you got to spectate WF runs while the rest of the community does not. Why have this be such a big deal and act like the community should care if we can't even spectate it?

I mean, you can watch players stream it as there were four or five guilds regularly streaming it this tier. Typically when a new raid is released the top channels when you look at Twitch are going to be Mythic progression. The real lack of it is in the top 2-3 because they're so close to each other they're trying to be more secretive (then again the 2nd and 3rd are undecided and someone is streaming Mythic Argus progression right now).

Community Managers don't spectate the raids like you're thinking of in the actual game. That's something that the encounter team does just to make sure its working correctly when its on the live servers and players are actually attempting it.

I think he was noting we watched some folks on Twitch who were streaming their runs. You're welcome to watch those as well.

>.> I spent too much time typing.

You win this time goat.