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why is this fun?

blizz -> wysłany:
I took a short break from running Cata heroics because I had all the gear I wanted from them and they weren't really fun to play anymore. I came back for the two new ones; so far I've queued twice in Zul'G and spent almost 6 hours trying to beat it, close to five hours alone on just the final boss. I have not succeeded.

Both times, I sat through a revolving door of well-geared players who got frustrated and left - until, after hours of dying, I also finally said goodbye. I never kicked; I am not rude. I helped explain things and tried to guide other players and did my absolute best according to my role. I tried and tried and tried and tried. We died again and again. I have spent well over 100g in repairs. I've died on that boss over 20 times. Maybe more. Why is this fun?

If I enjoyed this style of play I would be raiding. If I enjoyed dying over and over I would PvP. I don't do either of those things because that's not what I enjoy; I like playing heroics, which are claimed to be the end-game content for "the rest of us". Heroics used to be fun because they didn't take as much to be successful and they still let me progress a little; you had a reasonable chance to succeed and while you never got best-in-slot gear, you could get nice gear for a reasonable time commitment, and it was fun. This style of play no longer reflects this expectation.

(For those who want to be "helpful" and solve the problem of what went wrong, please don't. For those who insist on ignoring that statement, I have ilevel 352 equipped and know what I'm doing; pretty much everyone else out of the 20 or 30 people who also died on that boss with me knew what they were doing and also were well-geared. These deaths were all this week - not when the content first debuted and no one knew it. And I haven't been able to get a guild run together because it's still hard to get everyone together at the same time to do anything. At this point I don't know why I'd bother, anyway.)

In the end, I guess this is sort of an existential question more to the game designers than anyone else. So: why is this fun?

Because so far, my answer is: it isn't.
blizz -> wysłany:


In the end, I guess this is sort of an existential question more to the game designers than anyone else. So: why is this fun?

Because so far, my answer is: it isn't.



First off, it's a bit creepy seeing silhouettes instead of faces. It's like you're in the avatar protection service.

Second off, we can't answer the question of why it's fun for you. We can only say (and other players can say) why it's fun for us.

If you're not having fun, then you need to explore the "why". Is it because you're not running with friends, in a guild, raiding, doing dungeons, PvPing, crafting, becoming a juggernaut on the AH, exploring the world? There are a variety of reasons that it could not be fun for you. So, what IS fun for you?

I can't tell you "This" is fun. My definition and yours could be vastly different. For me, it's jumping in, talking to guildies, running some battlegrounds, doing my dailies, doing some crafting, running alts, hopping into a dungeon with friends etc.

So, I challenge you, rather than saying what is NOT fun, try to define what IS fun and do that.

Again, we're always open to constructive feedback, but you've got to get specific about it. As much as we might try to read minds, we just can't. We can see what people are doing in game, but the question of "why" is always there. So, we do what any normal person would do and ask you directly rather than claim we know all. We are human and even as a collective, we are outnumbered, but it doesn't mean we aren't going to do our best to do right by the community.
blizz -> wysłany:
Just a reminder. Please abide by the Code of Conduct. Please refrain from language or harassing/defamatory language toward others. I've edited or deleted posts for now and would like to avoid suspensions, but if the behavior persists, I'll take that next step.

Discuss constructively and it's all good.
blizz -> wysłany:
05/18/2011 09:36 AMPosted by Katise

First off, it's a bit creepy seeing silhouettes instead of faces. It's like you're in the avatar protection service



While I agree, the truth still remains that you're a floating candle.

Just saying.



Candleist!