Reinhilde

Original Post: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/10490859298?page=1
Second Post: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/10496969962?page=1

http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/

Well Forums, You know what to do.

And since people responded to it well, I'll also post a long post I made.

To sum up everything:

1. We are not asking for recustomizations to become free. We are asking for them to either give us a 1-time free customization for any existing character of a race (above ~level 60), or to add face and skin color to the barber shop for all races, and make recustomization be a way simply to change your character's gender and name.

2. We are not complaining about the new models. We like the new models. However, the new models significantly change how our characters look, no matter how "faithful" they stay to the original. In essence, it changes the personality of our character. Asking for the ability to check the other faces they make to see if one fits our character's personality better is not asking much.

3. Some of us put hours into making a new character. For some people, WoW is ALL about their characters. Having our characters changed without any way to fix it to our liking without paying $15 per character is not okay. Blizzard risks not only losing the VAST MAJORITY of RP players, but many many many regular players as well.

4. The free level 90 is NOT a substitute. Do not use it as an excuse. If you only play 1 character, it might be, but not everyone plays only 1 character. Likewise, the fact we can change everything except our face and skin color in the barber shop is not an excuse. The face is what defines our character, and they're changing them.

5. Just because something is SIMILAR to the original does not mean it is the same. From the models they have shown us, the ONLY race without SIGNIFICANT changes to their face are male orcs. This is the equivalent if say, you order Orange Juice at a restaurant and ask for a refill. Without asking, the person squeezes you a grapefruit into your orange juice, because it looks similar. Then in order to get a new drink, because THEY ruined your drink, you have to pay extra. No restaurant in the world would do this, because they'd lose a customer, and anyone they know.

Male Dwarves have a hugely changed face, not only including eye color, but their foreheads, eye shape, and mouths. The female gnome face we saw was converted from one of the "Serious" looks, but looks like someone slapped her with a happy stick. The female dwarf has the biggest changes of all. They are amazing, yes, but they look nothing like the original look. There's not a single detail on the new face that looks like the old. The male tauren also has significant changes due to the smoothing of the fur.

We should be allowed to make our characters feel right again, for free. It's not a hard request, or unreasonable. We are not acting like entitled brats. We are acting like we have put years into our characters, and having them changed and being told to deal with it and pay extra to fix it is wrong. Microsoft told people to deal with it, and their pre-orders were astronomically low. This led to the person who said that to being fired (and left to Zynga), and their entire stance changing, in order to keep fans.

6. Just because YOU don't care what your character looks like does NOT mean the rest of us don't. We aren't claiming everyone has an issue with this. However, a large amount of people do, as showcased by multiple post capped threads over the past 24 hours, and a huge thread on MMO-Champion.

7. If your character doesn't matter that much to you how bout a new deal? Every single character in the game is deleted. Period. You get free level 90s equal to how many you have. Nothing else will be reimbursed. After all, the characters don't matter to you, so why should you care? This is how it feels to us. They are NOT our characters. They were changed on us, and we're being told if we want to make them our characters again, (or try to), we have to pay to do so. We may not be able to make them feel like our characters again, in which case most of us will probably have to delete a few characters and reroll as a new race. However, the fact remains that most of them will easily be able to replicate the feel with a new face.

8. There would be no strain on the system, and they do not need to do a lot of work for this. They can simultaneously flag every X race for a free recustomization easily during a quick realm restart. They do this on the PTR constantly.

Say when 6.0 comes out, Humans, Orcs, Dwarves, Gnomes, Tauren, and Trolls are done. They could EASILY flag all level 60+ Humans, Orcs, Dwarves, Gnomes, Tauren, and Trolls for a recustomization in about 5 minutes. This would not affect the servers because 6.0 comes before the expansion is actually live. When 6.1 comes out and has say Night Elves and Forsaken? Release a small patch a week before the main patch comes out that updates the models, and flag all level 60+ NEs or Forsaken for recustomizatons. No stress on servers on patch day. Same goes for 6.2 and any other races.

9. If you don't care how your character looks, how about they remove transmogrification? How about all armor? After all, if it's all the same to you, why should they make unique looking armor in the first place? Why not have all plate wearers in a plain suit of armor, all mail wearers in a suit of chain mail, all leathers in a tunic, and all cloth in a robe? All weapons be normalized as well? Because people DO care about how their characters look. And changing something significantly without allowing us to fix it is NOT okay.

Now, I know they've said they are waiting on the models to actually be finalized before they make any decision, but the point is, making it known now that no matter what, our characters are changing drastically, and not allowing us to fix them is not okay, is necessary.

If we stay quiet and they don't finalize the models til a couple weeks before release, then we've then been screwed over listening to Blizzard and waiting. Letting our thoughts known now let them know this is a huge issue, and waiting until the models are finalized does not matter, as no matter how SIMILAR they are to our models, they are not going to be the same. They are changing our character's personality, and not allowing us to try to fix it without paying extra would just be wrong on so many levels.

Original Post: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/10490859298?page=1

http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/

"There will be no free re-customization for characters after new character models."

Well Forums, You know what to do.

And since people responded to it well, I'll also post a long post I made.

To sum up everything:

1. We are not asking for recustomizations to become free. We are asking for them to either give us a 1-time free customization for any existing character of a race (above ~level 60), or to add face and skin color to the barber shop for all races, and make recustomization be a way simply to change your character's gender and name.

2. We are not complaining about the new models. We like the new models. However, the new models significantly change how our characters look, no matter how "faithful" they stay to the original. In essence, it changes the personality of our character. Asking for the ability to check the other faces they make to see if one fits our character's personality better is not asking much.

3. Some of us put hours into making a new character. For some people, WoW is ALL about their characters. Having our characters changed without any way to fix it to our liking without paying $15 per character is not okay. Blizzard risks not only losing the VAST MAJORITY of RP players, but many many many regular players as well.

4. The free level 90 is NOT a substitute. Do not use it as an excuse. If you only play 1 character, it might be, but not everyone plays only 1 character. Likewise, the fact we can change everything except our face and skin color in the barber shop is not an excuse. The face is what defines our character, and they're changing them.

5. Just because something is SIMILAR to the original does not mean it is the same. From the models they have shown us, the ONLY race without SIGNIFICANT changes to their face are male orcs. This is the equivalent if say, you order Orange Juice at a restaurant and ask for a refill. Without asking, the person squeezes you a grapefruit into your orange juice, because it looks similar. Then in order to get a new drink, because THEY ruined your drink, you have to pay extra. No restaurant in the world would do this, because they'd lose a customer, and anyone they know.

Male Dwarves have a hugely changed face, not only including eye color, but their foreheads, eye shape, and mouths. The female gnome face we saw was converted from one of the "Serious" looks, but looks like someone slapped her with a happy stick. The female dwarf has the biggest changes of all. They are amazing, yes, but they look nothing like the original look. There's not a single detail on the new face that looks like the old. The male tauren also has significant changes due to the smoothing of the fur.

We should be allowed to make our characters feel right again, for free. It's not a hard request, or unreasonable. We are not acting like entitled brats. We are acting like we have put years into our characters, and having them changed and being told to deal with it and pay extra to fix it is wrong. Microsoft told people to deal with it, and their pre-orders were astronomically low. This led to the person who said that to being fired (and left to Zynga), and their entire stance changing, in order to keep fans.

6. Just because YOU don't care what your character looks like does NOT mean the rest of us don't. We aren't claiming everyone has an issue with this. However, a large amount of people do, as showcased by multiple post capped threads over the past 24 hours, and a huge thread on MMO-Champion.

7. If your character doesn't matter that much to you how bout a new deal? Every single character in the game is deleted. Period. You get free level 90s equal to how many you have. Nothing else will be reimbursed. After all, the characters don't matter to you, so why should you care? This is how it feels to us. They are NOT our characters. They were changed on us, and we're being told if we want to make them our characters again, (or try to), we have to pay to do so. We may not be able to make them feel like our characters again, in which case most of us will probably have to delete a few characters and reroll as a new race. However, the fact remains that most of them will easily be able to replicate the feel with a new face.

8. There would be no strain on the system, and they do not need to do a lot of work for this. They can simultaneously flag every X race for a free recustomization easily during a quick realm restart. They do this on the PTR constantly.

Say when 6.0 comes out, Humans, Orcs, Dwarves, Gnomes, Tauren, and Trolls are done. They could EASILY flag all level 60+ Humans, Orcs, Dwarves, Gnomes, Tauren, and Trolls for a recustomization in about 5 minutes. This would not affect the servers because 6.0 comes before the expansion is actually live. When 6.1 comes out and has say Night Elves and Forsaken? Release a small patch a week before the main patch comes out that updates the models, and flag all level 60+ NEs or Forsaken for recustomizatons. No stress on servers on patch day. Same goes for 6.2 and any other races.

9. If you don't care how your character looks, how about they remove transmogrification? How about all armor? After all, if it's all the same to you, why should they make unique looking armor in the first place? Why not have all plate wearers in a plain suit of armor, all mail wearers in a suit of chain mail, all leathers in a tunic, and all cloth in a robe? All weapons be normalized as well? Because people DO care about how their characters look. And changing something significantly without allowing us to fix it is NOT okay.

This minor decision Blizzard has made may have a significant impact on their bottom line and the playerbase if it goes through, which is what people have been discussing at length for the past day now.

Just checked out the PTR, and there's an ilvl486 requirement to enter the new LFR.

Now, there's no new 5 mans to buff our ilvl, so for non-raiders... exactly how are we supposed to reach this without PvP when the current LFRs drop 476 and 483s?

Am I missing something here? Do you expect non-raiders to spend months (to the point the raid after thunder king is released) getting valor to buy that gear for ilvl?

I know it's PTR, and it might just be inflated for testing purposes, but it seems a bit weird that you would place the ilvl requirement for the new raid above the ilvl of the gear that drops in the previous LFR.