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Ashran: What now?

blizz -> wysłany:
So there's no reason to attack the enemy general anymore.

Meaning there's no reason to summon Kronus or Fangraal anymore.

Meaning there's no reason to fight over Kor'lok anymore.

Meaning a lot of the content in Ashran is now obsolete.

So...what do we do now? Just compete for events? That's not fun.
blizz -> wysłany:
02/25/2015 02:08 PMPosted by Ninh
So there's no reason to attack the enemy general anymore.

A lot of people would still like to collect Combatant and Gladiator gear. It's decent.
blizz -> wysłany:
02/25/2015 02:16 PMPosted by Taelarn
02/25/2015 02:14 PMPosted by Zarhym
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A lot of people would still like to collect Combatant and Gladiator gear. It's decent.


Why? For what reason is that important now?

It might not be important for you at this stage. And that's okay. You might be one of the people who should be focusing more on winning the events over the Horde for the Conquest Points. Desvin spoke to this earlier.
blizz -> wysłany:
02/25/2015 02:24 PMPosted by Infadell
I guess that's why the que times are down, nobody wants to go in there anymore!

There were fairly notable changes in 6.1 to how Ashran instances are populated, the goal being to reduce the unacceptable wait times.
blizz -> wysłany:
02/25/2015 02:26 PMPosted by Weathervane
02/25/2015 02:14 PMPosted by Zarhym
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A lot of people would still like to collect Combatant and Gladiator gear. It's decent.
I got a piece of 600 gear and what seemed like 20 honor. I don't want 600 gear or honor. Volrath and a Kronos are on their own now. :/

We're removing the Aspirant gear from the faction bosses. As Desvin mentioned in his post, we totally agree that that's not a motivating reward.
blizz -> wysłany:
02/25/2015 02:26 PMPosted by Pojjo
02/25/2015 02:14 PMPosted by Zarhym
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A lot of people would still like to collect Combatant and Gladiator gear. It's decent.


I might be speaking about a vocal minority here but, as much fun as gear grinding is, the reason I grind out pvp gear is to be able to use it in all forms of pvp.

The problem with Ashran, in my opinion at least, is that it has turned into less of a "world pvp hub" and into a honor/conq grinding hub. Groups rarely interact anymore at all. Horde does events, Alliance kills boss. Rinse, Repeat, no actual pvp included.

Its actually the complete OPPOSITE of what makes World PvP amazing. World PvP isnt about being awared with free loot for shooting npcs, thats what LFR is for. World PvP is about two groups fighting without rules, boundries or reason. Its about spontaneous wars breaking out in random places. Ashran is now just PvE content that can occasionally be interupted by the other faction.

We mostly agree with you, though we do feel that it's nice to have some tangible rewards to gain beyond the sweet feeling of besting your foes from the opposing faction. We've changed how the rewards are doled out, the objective being to discourage collusion between teams and see people rumbling more.
blizz -> wysłany:
Real improvements aren't going to happen until you guys quit patting yourselves on the back.

I don't know what this means. We've said for sometime now that Ashran can be improved and have been tweaking things to that end.