07/19/2011 05:44 PMPosted by ZarhymThat's a pretty ineffective way to consider class balance. It's as though you're suggesting the answer to perceived shaman woes is for us to buff them until the top guilds in the world must bring them to their raids for world first kills. That's a vacuum in which class balance should never work.
Devs are right guys. Shamans are amazing dps/heals in PvE. Top-end guilds just don't want to cheese the fights out by bringing in top DPS specs like Enhance and Elemental.
http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Overall_DPS/25N/100/14/60/default/#2nnb4
High-end guilds never min-max their players' classes/specs.
I remember when this was the case WAY back in BC, but the reason was that Shamans brought amazing buffs. Now it's just coincidental guys.
Yea guys, exactly. Shamans have been on easier heroic kills, so what's the problem?One thing you're certainly not doing is counting all of the kills of each of the Heroic bosses which followed the world firsts. Shaman have certainly been present for Heroic boss kills in Cataclysm, but that data doesn't support your argument. You want to focus on, what, four total boss kills over the last eight months? Out of tens of thousands of Heroic boss kills which have occurred globally since Cataclysm, do you really think you're presenting a fair case?
Speaking of typical and cookie cutter though, here's one for the record books: "Class X is clearly not good enough because guild Y didn't use it the very first time they killed your current hardest boss."
Nothing to see here, move along!
I just want to personally thank Zarhym. There's nothing like having your finger on the pulse of the community. I appreciate your honesty and knowledge.
