Blizzard reports loss of income

Terrorizin	wysłany: 14 lat temu Lol, me among others have been warning you about this since the shattering. No 1 for people like me there is almost nothing to do anymore besides randoms and daily quests. It is absolutely boring 90% of the time. I dont have a problem with 10 man raiders having the same gear as 25 man raids, but when u made it to where you can only do one raid a week at each instance, you cut your own throat. guess what since we can only do one raid a week and of course its with the guild, that leaves nothing else for us to do. I enjoyed pugging 10 mans on the weekend, it gave you a chance to raid with other people besides the ones you have to raid with every week. now because of the change 25 mans guilds are a rare breed, and Im still certain that 25 man raids are harder than 10, they only gave you the same gear because they got sick of people crying about it. So now we got a bunch of players who have taken the easy way out and stopped doing 25 mans. Since most people have to save their lockouts for their guild that means less people starting raids in trade channel. meaning most likely if you join a pug its most likely gonna be fail after a boss or 2 and your gonna have a hard time joining a raid that you allready have bosses down in. Like I said i saw it coming, and i think its hilarious. Just a thought, i play this game to get away from the bs i go thru on a daily basis and to escape from my job, so now that your putting so much emphasis on guilds, that means i got to put up with the same crap in the game. This game is no longer special to me by any means, with games like rift out there and other newer games about to hit the market, I will probably be checking out the other games myself. Yes Blizzard, not everyone is buying your crap anymore, and if you dont make the game more interesting ill be taking my money elsewhere as well. I know they are gonna delete this post, but its the god's honest truth, Blizzard needs to make it more interesting for the people thinking about leaving, or they can downsize some more. Instead of punishing people and just hitting the delete post button for people talking out in the forums, try listening to them for once. I love this game, but its not doing anything for me and the chump-change i throw at it every month.
Zarhym	wysłany: 14 lat temu We do listen, but do you see where this thread has gone as a result of the manner in which you've decided to post? This is a forum for discussing World of Warcraft gameplay -- and that includes discussing your concerns or frustrations over gameplay -- but this thread has almost no discussion of gameplay at all. The reason is because you're using the talking points from a corporate investors call to try and back up your assertions about the shortcomings of WoW development. This tactic doesn't lead to any useful discussion. If you have a legitimate gameplay concern, share it in a reasonable and clear manner... get people discussing that specific topic. Throw in assumptions about our business strength and veiled threats about what will happen to us if we "don't do X," and you have a recipe for a thread of bickering and nonsense. Like this one. Instead of punishing people and just hitting the delete post button for people talking out in the forums, try listening to them for once. I love this game, but its not doing anything for me and the chump-change i throw at it every month.
Zarhym	wysłany: 14 lat temu 05/11/2011 06:12 PMPosted by Frapsity I understand what you're saying Zarhym, however a sub drop that's out of the norm has to mean something's not right, doesn't it? I think a lot of people who are talking about the sub drop are citing WoW dev shortcomings because it's a perfect plausible reason the subs have gone down. I'm just saying it's a pretty inconsequential topic of discussion on these forums. We're not going to suddenly "listen more" to what players are saying they want, desperately trying to ensure we don't lose more people. We're always listening and trying to make the best game possible, but players are never in agreement over what they want. There are too many variables regarding subscription numbers for us to have a focused discussion on gameplay using those numbers as proof of anything. We want to continue hearing your feedback on ways you think the game could be improved -- we don't need any "I told you so" or "See, this game is dying" comments to encourage us to pass your feedback along to the developers. This game has been out for nearly seven years now, so we know we need to think about more innovative ways to keep it feeling fresh and fun. Our developers are working harder than ever right now with that goal in mind. :)
Zarhym	wysłany: 14 lat temu 05/11/2011 06:17 PMPosted by Kevyne We do listen, but do you see where this thread has gone as a result of the manner in which you've decided to post? This is a forum for discussing World of Warcraft gameplay -- and that includes discussing your concerns or frustrations over gameplay -- but this thread has almost no discussion of gameplay at all. The reason is because you're using the talking points from a corporate investors call to try and back up your assertions about the shortcomings of WoW development. It's what we have to go on. Playing WoW is a time investment, and yes, we're investors in Blizzard. We are concerned about our game, and our play styles. We argue, bicker, complain all in the hope somewhere in the halls at Blizzard someone would THINK about the state of the game...instead of trying to prove a concept. We're knocking heads, because Blizzard is stuck on proving THEIR concepts, where players want to play their toons in the way it's FUN to them. This IS a game. It's not school. It's not work. It's ENTERTAINMENT. We have too many addons to even play the game "right" (my freaking 1920x1080 monitor is covered by addons...pure waste of screen real estate. And now you want me to install Decursive on top of all that too???). We have too much navel gazing at stats, where threads become Linear Algebra. We must build cookie cutter specs as there's only ONE way to play a role. It all adds up to frustration. In the game. In the mechanics. In the overall direction of where WoW is going. Want to play the game, not spend it jawing on the forums. Raids are shut out, and damn if I'm going to keep paying for others who are too lazy to learn on their own time and dime in the hardest heroic dungeons. It's getting stupid, Blizzard, stupid to keep paying for others to carry. I understand what you're saying and appreciate the post. I just have a comment on this part: Playing WoW is a time investment, and yes, we're investors in Blizzard. We are concerned about our game, and our play styles. We argue, bicker, complain all in the hope somewhere in the halls at Blizzard someone would THINK about the state of the game...instead of trying to prove a concept. We're knocking heads, because Blizzard is stuck on proving THEIR concepts, where players want to play their toons in the way it's FUN to them. We understand people complain because they are passionate about the game. Most of you just want what's best for the game, or at least what is most enjoyable for you in the game. I don't think what you say about us proving our concepts is accurate though. In some cases that's our fault, and we've been working to improve communication between the developers and players, even starting articles like the Dev Watercooler to let you in on our internal thinking process. Understand though, that this company doesn't exist in a vacuum. There are a lot of people working here, and we have the same kinds of debates with each other we see on the forums. Developers argue with other developers over what they feel is best for the game. Just the same, the developers' doors are wide open for people like me to walk in and say "look, this is what a lot of people on the forums are saying about X change. Explain your philosophy to me and let's think about how this can be rectified." Of course we do have a vision for where we want this game to go, but it's important to note that the vision is formed from a collective group of people. And within that group the vision is scrutinized and picked apart, all the while refined and further sharpened by feedback from people like you. Nothing is absolutely set in stone in a game like this. WoW development is an iterative, evolutionary process, and we're going to continue approaching it with pride and passion. The game will never be for everyone, but we want to make sure it's fun for those who have invested years into playing, as well as those who just picked it up to see what all the fuss is about. ;)
Zarhym	wysłany: 14 lat temu Why do you guys only respond to the completely troll threads? I'm not trying to be a jerk. But why is it? It seems the only time decent questions / threads are answered is durign a Q and A. Because these numbers are going to keep being brought up and act as distractions from actual gameplay topics. Then we'll start moderating more heavily, only to have a bunch of threads about how we silence all dissent popping up. I felt it necessary to address one head on and publicly say why it's not useful, and what players should be focused on before logging into these forums. As a Community Manager, that's my call to make, so let me go with it. If you disapprove, we've got [email protected] for you. :)
Zarhym	wysłany: 14 lat temu 05/11/2011 07:17 PMPosted by Exïled Regardless of his post Zarhym, it is a general discussion forum, and although this topic doesn't discuss specific aspects OF the game, he is providing the general public with the truth behind net loss of players. The General Discussion forum, where even truth is subjective. ?