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Encouraging ilevel LFD dishonesty.?

blizz -> wysłany:
Wow, I am truly perplexed at Blizzard for this.

Blue Poster "Wryxian"- "just keep some higher item level gear in your bags so you can use the LFD tool.....Yeah, sneaky, but.......it works."

Why would Blizzard create a system, only to then tell everyone to simply use improper gear to circumvent the mechanics?

Why not create a new TIP of the Day when logging in?

"If you are undergeared for the LFD, throw on some higher ilevel gear, to circumvent the restrictions."

What kind of community is Blizzard trying to foster, by blatantly encouraging it's player base, to be dishonest? Imagine if you are a Tank, trying to gear up in a non heroic, and a dps rolls need on your tanking gear, only to tell you, that Blizzard encourages its players to get any gear so they can use that gear to get into heroics quicker. Or a resto druid rolling need on leather dps gear, with the same answer?

I see post after post, deriding the player base, saying how terrible everyone is to each other, and Blizzard gladly adds to that by endorsing parts of what makes the player base terrible.

Boggles my mind.


(Edited the title. Please try to avoid putting "Blizzard", "Blue", or other variables in titles when you can. Thanks- Nethaera)


There is a lot of name calling and inappropriate/non-constructive discussion going on in this thread so I'm going to close it. In the future, please feel free to email to [email protected] if you feel you would like to share feedback on community team performance. Thanks- Nethaera
blizz -> wysłany:
I have no idea if you're taking what he said out of context, since it's been stripped down to a bare quote, but I'm sure his intentions were not meant as you seem to think. Perhaps he was talking about someone who was trying to run a Heroic dungeon with better geared guildies. I couldn't say for sure without heading over to do more reading. Aside from that, I'll give you our insight based on discussions we've had on this end of the big drink.

From our discussions here, and while people can "game" the gear item level, we definitely want to encourage people to be careful in "gaming" the system. While you can do it, it may result in your being unhappy with the end result because you didn't really have the gear necessary to accomplish what you needed to do in a dungeon. The choice is ultimately yours.

In the "Wow, Dungeons are Hard!" blog post by Ghostcrawler ( http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/2053469 ) he mentions the idea of item level and what we think we should have done better in general with item level and the progression to get to Heroics.

First, item level is a necessary -- but not sufficient -- hoop to jump through when using the Dungeon Finder for Heroics. We should have also made sure players had at least seen the content on normal mode before. Maybe we should have had Burning Crusade-like attunements. Maybe we should have made the item level requirements pretty relaxed if you’re going with a premade group and much stricter if you’re going with a pick-up group. We’d love to implement (and have some long-term plans that include) better ways to detect if you know what you’re doing other than just the gear you’ve accumulated. Overall, we just needed to state more clearly that Heroic dungeons are intended as a destination, not a first step.



We have more thoughts on this and hopefully we'll find some better and more logical solutions so that people don't feel the need to game the system to get their foot in the door.
blizz -> wysłany:
01/14/2011 9:22 AMPosted by Awel

I have no idea if you're taking what he said out of context, since it's been stripped down to a bare quote, but I'm sure his intentions were not meant as you seem to think



Really Nethaera?

Why not take the time to find out before you answer?

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1535575552



I mean the thread is right there!

Truly of all the blue posters here on the forums I expected more from you then this.....



I've been doing some juggling this morning and if you read on, I explain a bit more of our thinking in regard to ilevel and gear outside of what Wryxian may have said. I know him well and am sure his intentions were not to encourage gaming the system for the sake of gaming the system.

I'm not trying to shirk anything off, and can appreciate the confusion his statement may have caused, but I can assure you, we're not trying to encourage anything, just pointing out that currently, people can do this. Do we like it the way it is? Not really. We'd like to improve on the system. We know we have very clever community members who will often find some new thing we didn't see in a test or think of ourselves. We're a bit outnumbered you know. ;) But, we try and we try to find ways to correct issues that should be corrected as quickly and as well as we possibly can without sacrificing the ongoing and future health of the tame.